The expansion of the olther slugs varied from 0.654 to the Brenneke's expansion of 2.275 inches. Order these round by the "length of you slug guns chamber", period. When we got home and cleaned the rifled barrel, the five non-sabot, rifled slugs had not really deposited any lead that we could notice. Search for products: suggestions appear below . 50 yards, open sights, Browning A5 with Hastings 24" barrel. Rifle Barrels; Rifle Bolts; Rifle Lowers; Rifle Magazines & Rifle Clips; Rifle Stocks; . Many shooters will use a scope when firing rifled slugs because of the considerable increase in range. First a little terminology education. Spiral nose cuts and proprietary bonding technology control expansion from 5 to 200 yards. A Sabot slug is an improved rifled slug. I bought a used but clean Mossberg 500 rifled barrel with Williams rifle sights for my Maverick 88. However, in my opinion, the best choice for smooth bore is the Brenneke slug (b). His testing showed that shooting rifled slugs through a rifled barrel showed about the same accuracy as shooting sabot slugs through the rifled barrel. The idea is to have the slug spinning for stability. Purchase and pick-up in-store. A rifled slug of 2 3/4 inch come with many velocities and a few weights. A shotgun slug has the potential to travel between 200 and 400 yards. Rifled chokes are better than nothing if shooting sabot slugs. Non-Firing Replica Guns; Non-Lethal Weapons; Shooting Supplies. LBC Sabot Slug 12ga (25/pak) . 5o yd. In both 12 gauge and the 20 gauge cartridges, Hornady ® SST ® Shotgun Slugs deliver sub-2" groups at 100 yards and feature the flattest trajectory on the market. If you have a rifled shotgun barrel, you're going to want sabot slugs. i've been told that non sabot slugs fired through rifled barrels tend to crush lead into the rifling and that its' removal is quite difficult..i don't know this from personal experience, but it sounds like that would reduce the overall "fun" ratio..if you do it, please post your results..i'd be interested in knowing, as others might be … Foster slugs are made of lead and will swag down the barrel without ill effect and be perfectly accurate. The barrel cleaned-up sparkling clean very easily. - three lead free choices for rifled barrels. You'll save money over buying another dedicated slug gun. use non-rifled slugs in a smooth barrel with a rifled choke tube. Those groups opened up significantly and also many were key holed. Sabot type slugs did not work. TarHunt-Premier "NeoTec" Copper 365gr (green) slug round is the High Performance 20ga Schrifle™ series slug; loaded in both the 2 3/4″ and 3″ standard shot gun hulls. Yes, you can shoot either buckshot or rifled slugs in that barrel. If you can choose, go with a . Thanks, I'll look for those! Category: SLUG SHOTGUN SHELLS . Designed for use in fully rifled barrels. Smooth bore's can use "rifled slugs" by Winchester, Federal, or Remington. I requested and received a Hawke scope to enhance the utility of this shotgun. The motivation behind the creation of this slug was that Karl M. Foster's neighbors needed a better method for harvesting deer during the Great Depression. Then there's Ddupleks also. 2 3/4", 1 oz. A cylinder choke is recommended for shooting rifled slugs in a smooth-bore barrel. Yeah, if you've fired rifled slugs out of your rifled barrel, please do yourself a favor and give that barrel a . KTKT70 Well-known member. Be the first to write a review! accuracy may be compromised. I have a Remington 870. Sabot slug History and Other Helpful Slug Gun Facts. Feb 6, 2019 #12 rayporter Senior Member. Buyer's Club $6.17 Non-Member $6.49. Most slug shooters will only use slugs in their dedicated slug-shooting firearm, and not mix shooting with shots. Sabots are expensive, like $15 for 5. My old smooth bore M-1100 shoots a group the size of a pie pan at 100 yards. Ive found every barrel is different. My scoped rifled barrel (Mossberg) will shoot sabots in half that size. For use in rifled barrels with standard chamber lengths. Posts: 188. . I use iron sights on both barrels. Joined Jul 13, 2012 Messages .58 caliber. The rifled slugs are more accurate in a barrel with an improved cylinder or modified choke. Got great accuracy from 50 yds out of my Mossberg Maveric 88 with a rifled barrel. Foster slugs were created when only smoothbore "slug" barrels were used and, as you said, they were cyclinder bore which means no constriction. . later, charlie Comment. Answer (1 of 8): Yes you can but you wont get the accuracy you would if you used a slug barrel The projectile was a wasp waisted hourglass shape made of a hard lead alloy. You can use Sabot slugs in a non-rifled barrel but accuracy and range is diminished. I couldnt be happier! Aug 31, 2011. But first make sure the slug will fit through your barrel. An extra full choke or a turkey choke is .697. Canada. I've got a smooth bore Ithaca barrel that will shoot rifled slugs in playing card groups at 80 yards. Best accuracy: Rifled barrel, saboted slug. Regular deer slugs have been called that for years. #3/12. Product Title. I've sighted in several cantilevered/scoped Mossberg 500 with 2 3/4" Federal sabot slugs, and produced some scary . Need to stock up on some sabot rounds and check the zero on my shotgun rig. The accuracy is similar to that of a typical rifle. 5o yd. Designed for use in fully rifled barrels; 1,850 fps velocity; 5-round box; 260-grain slug weight . Rifled slugs are intended to be shot from smooth bored open choke barrels, they have the rifling on the body of the slug which causes the spin and stabilization. First a little terminology education. An armed society is a polite society. no, only shoot non rifled or sabot slugs in a rifled barrel. 9.7. Variety: Rifled slugs come in a huge variety for every gauge shotgun available, from 12 gauge slug ammo to 10 gauge to .410 Bore. Amazing ammo! . lets say just for instance your barrel is a 1-5 twist, and the rifled slug produced a 1-8 twist, not only will you damage the barrel,. Both my 20 g rifles barrels actually do fine out to 75 yards with cheapo rifled slugs. Rifled slugs are built nose heavy to make them fly true. All are scoped, and I can easily shoot less than 2" groups from a bench at 50 yards with the Lyman sabot slug. The 20ga Schrifle™ Neotec™ Copper 365gr (green) bore size slug @1800fps is a heavy hitter, max expanding slug with excellent weight . Brenneke Super Sabot slugs are loaded with an interesting, lead-free projectile and are intended for use in fully rifled barrels. (Image: Screenshot from video) It's common knowledge that rifled slugs are meant for use in smoothbore shotgun barrels, while rifled shotgun barrels and rifled choke tubes are meant to produce better results (meaning better accuracy) with sabot slugs, whose smooth outer surface can better engage the barrel's rifling . Many shooters will use a scope when firing rifled slugs because of the considerable increase in range. Shooting a non-sabot rifled slug through a rifled barrel can cause them to shoot into very nice groups. While the 500's sights are good the scope is a 3 X 9 especially made for muzzle loaders and shotguns. I have had a few folks ask the question: "I know sabot slugs are designed to be used with rifled shotgun barrels, but can they be used effectively with a smooth bore barrel?" That is the question we will try to answer today. The 20ga Schrifle™ Raptor™ Alv is a 270gr @1975fps High Performance non-sabot full bore size slug for rifled barrels. 5-round box. You'll just have to try it and see what fits your style and pain level. With a fully rifled barrel on my old Mossberg 500, I can maintain 3 shots inside a 1" group at 100 yards (shooting from a rest). Sabots are intended to be shot from rifled barrels which cause the slug to spin and stabilize. - Lawrence, IL : WOW: 12/23/2017: The accuracy from these slugs is no Joke. A smooth bore is exactly how it sounds, smooth. All of the competitors slugs expanded, losing penetration. And they aren't that expensive either, $12 or $13 a box. 2: Sabot slugs - Smaller caliber slugs (commonly .50 caliber) that are smooth, much like a rifle bullet, usually pointed or with a large . The plastic sleeve would engage the rifling and impart a spin which stabilizes the slug. But the comment that rifled slugs shoot as well as sabot slugs is alittle off the mark. Slug barrels that are smoothbore are less likely to deform the slugs. Federal Truball slugs worked for me as did the cheaper Brenneke slugs. Rifled slugs are typically best in smoothbore slug guns. No other slug gun ammo can come close to the performance of the SST. Sabot slugs (c) are for rifled barrels. A shotgun slug has the ability to be just as effective as a rifle round, albeit with a reduced range. Ontario. Patron Member NRA Because they are usually fired from a smoothbore barrel, the slugs are not as accurate as a rifle bullet. Item not currently available for sale. Buy Now. Joined: Dec 2006. .50 caliber sabot slug of a new design. Hornady's American Whitetail rifled slug line is a popular choice for hunters confined to using a shotgun during deer season. A 20-gauge model is available in the standard Encore, which comes with a 24-inch barrel and rifle sights. . (1)The Federal/Barnes combo (2) Winchester XP3 (3) Remington Copper solids There are 2 basic types of shotgun slugs - 1: Rifled slugs - Large, normally lead round with grooves around the slug to cause it to spin on it's own when shot through a smoothbore barrel. Sabots are a waste of money if you are not using a scope imo. A smooth barrel w/ a rifled choke provided 4" 3-shot groups at 100 yards. TruBall Deep Penetrator Rifled Slug, 5 Rounds. Sabots in some guns with a good marksman can shoot tight groups out to 150 or more yards. You can use Sabot slugs in a non-rifled barrel but accuracy and range is diminished. A solid, single projectile. shot during deer season put meat on the table. The rifling Hastings type barrels were really meant for slugs like the solid copper sabot slugs. Plain rifled slugs are $5 for 5. a Remington 1187 mine is a cantilever rifled slug barrel and a Leupold 2-7x33. Power Port™ Tip delivers accuracy. Otherwise, you'll be better off with a rifled slug instead of a sabot. Be the first to write a review! FIND A DEALER TO PURCHASE. The sabot is just a vehicle for the projectile, not the projectile itself. shot during deer season put meat on the table. If fact the only combination that showed poor accuracy was shooting sabot slugs through a smooth barrel. Post . Regular slugs, aka pumpkin balls are not as accurate as sabots shot from rifled barrels. There are nontoxic slugs designed for both smooth bore and rifled. I use low powered rifle scopes and Remington extended rifled choke. Slugs with sabots are designed to be shot from a rifled barrel. . Keeping it simple. MSRP. A smooth bore has no lands and grooves. 260-grain slug weight. The slug spins more like a rifle bullet. The slug itself is smaller than the shotgun bore and encased in wad which has a greater effect with a rifled shotgun barrel. Everyone here is hot on the 220 Savages so 12ga rifled stuff is abundant. There are different . The accuracy is similar to that of a typical rifle. Just last season I tried the new Hornady SST sabot slugs (2-3/4") and they are great. The top-of-the-line 28-inch Pro Hunter slug barrel is in 12 gauge only. If you use Brenneke slugs you really do not need a rifled barrel. 20" barrel with saddle scope mount. We either convert to rifled barrels or wait for the ammo producers to come out with more lead free options. They were fine on paper. Right now, on the CA approved list: - zero rifled slugs for use in smoothbores. Rifled Slug Features. Brenneke 3-inch, 1-1/8 ounce Super Sabot. Winchester makes a zinc rifled slug designed for smoothbore. I shoot copper-plated hollow-point slugs and they work like a charm. Overview . I shoot a 12 gauge Remington 870 with a hastings barrel. Elzetta ZSM-T Flashlight Mount for Tactical Shotgun, Remington 870, Mossberg 500, Quick Release Thumbscrew Model. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly . You are wasting money shoot sabots through smooth bored barrel. I couldnt be happier! If you are going to use a Hastings Rifled barrel something to consider are the STI Sabots with either a Lead insert or Brass Non Toxic insert. Score. Shooting a Foster slug through a full choke is perfectly safe and will not damage the gun. Buy Now. Best sabot slugs for mossberg 500. A fully rifled barrel is certainly ideal. 2"es x 30 Yards, Black $18.88 SnapSafe Portable Lock Box for Guns and Valuables - Includes Lock Box, 2 Keys and Patented Security Cable - an Ideal Car Gun Safe - XL, Black, 10 x 7 x 2"es . When to use rifled barrels. Great prices on Shotshells. Add to cart. As Charlie pointed out, there is a big difference in accuracy between the two. Item not currently available for sale. Be thinking about 1 1/2" groups @50 yds. Quote. LBC Sabot Slug 12ga (25/pak) . Best Fit: If you already own an Encore and hunt in a "slug state," adding a rifled slug barrel is a no-brainer. . Only show this user. In a rifled slug barrel only sabots can be used, a rifled slug is for a smooth bore. - Lawrence, IL : WOW: 12/23/2017: Sabot Slug Sabot Slugs include a plastic cylinder that covers the sides of the encased projectile. Posted October 10, 2004. Can be used in both rifled and non-rifled shotguns. A saboted slug maintains accuracy at a longer range--120 yards is not too much to ask from a finely tuned slug gun with a rifled barrel and scope, and some deer hunters feel confident out to 150 yards. Use non-rifled slugs in a rifled barrel. 1. Use ic choke. The recovered slugs retained weight loss varied from 72.03% to 99.46% in the Brenneke USA slug. The slug itself has spiraled grooves (the rifling) that enable the slug to spin as it exits the barrel. Over 95% weight retention. Buy 25 Rounds of Remington Sabot Slugs: GunBroker is the largest seller of Shotgun Shells Ammunition All: 932787504 . Although hunters brag of longer shots on deer with slugs, most shots end up being around 50-100 yards. Sabot slugs - pronounced "SAY-BO" - are the improved and technologically superior brother of rifled slugs, because they simply offer more accuracy and longer range from a shotgun, typically with a rifled barrel.This type of slug is encased (or otherwise attached) to a wad or bore-sleeve - which basically grips the rifling in the barrel and gives the projectile inside the spin needed . 1,850 fps velocity. Yes, you can shoot a rifled slug through a smooth bore barrel, but a sabot slug would have to be shot out of a rifled slug barrel as the sabot slugs are much like a rifle bullet and don't have the rifling on the projectile itself like a rifled slug does. Rifled slugs are designed for smooth bore shotguns and sabot slugs are designed for rifled barrels. A rifled barrel has lands and groves that cause the projectile to spin when it exists the muzzle (end of the barrel). My gun is sighted in at 100 yards and I'm getting one inch groups and sometimes better. For the rifled barrel market this would be a less expensive alternative to most sabot slugs for most medium game. So basically it is a non-sabot projectile loaded into a 20 gauge plastic hull with the bullet sticking out of the hull (just like rifle cartridges are loaded). Non-glare matte black receiver finish; Thick-walled, rifled barrel for slug and sabot ammunition; Cantilever Weaver-style scope mount; Twist rates: 12 gauge - 1 in 28", 20 gauge - 1 in 24" . A smooth bore does not encourage the projectile to spin like a rifled barrel does. rifle slugs are made for smooth bore barrels, they will foul the rifling on a rifle barrel, you want to use a sabot type slug, Lightfield EXP seem to work well in most shotguns, but also you want to test a few brands. Failure to pay within 4 calendar days from auction close will result in your . Rifled deer barrels must use Sabot ammo!!! Heavy Duty Gaffers Tape, Non-Reflective, Multipurpose. Sabots might leave some plastic, but no lead. . Compressing the rifling through the choke imparts some degree of spin. I previously used Remington Accutips 3 inchers. Non lead or lead free slugs for 12 gauge with rifled barrel Sep 7, 2018 #1 Desk Jockey Well Known Rokslider Joined Apr 5, 2015 Messages 4,579 I have a chance to hunt a shotgun only area this year. Russ Chastain 07.29.20. I have had a few folks ask the question: "I know sabot slugs are designed to be used with rifled shotgun barrels, but can they be used effectively with a smooth bore barrel?" That is the question we will try to answer today. 2"-3" at 100 yards. Remington Slugger 20 Gauge Rifled Slugs $ 7 $ 6. Sabots for rifled barrels. 2 3/4", 300 Grain Sabot Slugs, 5 Rounds. With these results, we decided this slug offered both the hunter and the law enforcement and . But you can over-do it if there is more than one set of rifling. The 12 GA 300 gr FTX delivers a crushing 1793 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards and the smaller, 20 GA 250 gr FTX delivers an impressive 1200 ft/lbs of energy at the same distance. Image. What is the 20ga "Schrifle"? And their massive size tends to be poor for aerodynamics. Sabot slug, fully rifled barrel Specifications Velocity: 1725 fps at muzzle, 1,585 fps at 100 yds . In fact, the rifled shotgun barrel was created to help the sabot slug perform better, as they were both created around the same time. Saboted slugs, when fired out of a rifled barrel, are generally far more accurate than non-jacketed slugs out of a smoothbore, with accuracy to 300 metres (330 yd) approaching that of low-velocity rifle calibers. The porting doesn't seem to affect the accuracy. Mon - Fri: 8:00 a.m. - 5:30 p.m. Saturday: 8 . Rifle Barrels; Rifle Bolts; Rifle Lowers; Rifle Magazines & Rifle Clips; Rifle Stocks; Small Rifle Parts . The Foster slug (a), available from most of the ammo manufacturers, is for smooth bore. Ironically, rifled slugs do not want to be spun, but just sort of slide down a smoothbore. 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